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		<title>Comment on Love Your Enemies by scythewieldor</title>
		<link>http://unorthodoxfaith.com/2012/02/07/love-your-enemies/#comment-1865</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 18:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The answer to persecution is to obey the commandment, &quot;If they persecute you in one place, flee to another&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The answer to persecution is to obey the commandment, &#8220;If they persecute you in one place, flee to another&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Love Your Enemies by Sick Boy McCoy</title>
		<link>http://unorthodoxfaith.com/2012/02/07/love-your-enemies/#comment-1863</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 18:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[true conflict comes when we decide to seriously live out the sermon on the mount and &#039;love our enemies.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>true conflict comes when we decide to seriously live out the sermon on the mount and &#8216;love our enemies.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bloggers and Church Authority by Erik</title>
		<link>http://unorthodoxfaith.com/2012/02/06/bloggers-and-church-authority/#comment-1859</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 19:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am a bit unorthodox on my view of pastoring, I suppose; but I believe that those who are chosen, gifted and called are a much smaller group than those who graduate seminary. (I was already pastoring before I attended seminary and was a senior pastor before finishing my master&#039;s degree.)

The recognition of God&#039;s calling does not lie with a seminary or even with an individual. It is an act of the Spirit, leading a congregation to ordain a man (or woman) - to literally recognize the Spirit&#039;s gifting in that person in that congregation. If we placed this responsibility in the hands of God&#039;s people rather than basing it on their GPA and ability to interview well, I think the issues the research addresses would be minimalized.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a bit unorthodox on my view of pastoring, I suppose; but I believe that those who are chosen, gifted and called are a much smaller group than those who graduate seminary. (I was already pastoring before I attended seminary and was a senior pastor before finishing my master&#8217;s degree.)</p>
<p>The recognition of God&#8217;s calling does not lie with a seminary or even with an individual. It is an act of the Spirit, leading a congregation to ordain a man (or woman) &#8211; to literally recognize the Spirit&#8217;s gifting in that person in that congregation. If we placed this responsibility in the hands of God&#8217;s people rather than basing it on their GPA and ability to interview well, I think the issues the research addresses would be minimalized.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bloggers and Church Authority by Joe</title>
		<link>http://unorthodoxfaith.com/2012/02/06/bloggers-and-church-authority/#comment-1858</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 17:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Whether people want to accept it or not, the Scriptures are very plain that pastors are uniquely gifted among the church (Ephesians 4, 1 Peter 5). We should never take leadership cues from those God has not chosen, gifted and called.&quot;

Yes, but how is one to know whether a pastor is chosen, gifted and called?  According to Barna research that I have read, many seminary graduates drop out of the ministry after several years for various reasons.  Also it may be unknown to the congregation, but it many successful pastors (those that are able to earn a living from being a pastor) also struggle with the same sins as the congregation.  Viewing pornography was mentioned in the research.  Therefore, the success of a pastor may have more to due with personality and marketing than being chosen, gifted and called.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Whether people want to accept it or not, the Scriptures are very plain that pastors are uniquely gifted among the church (Ephesians 4, 1 Peter 5). We should never take leadership cues from those God has not chosen, gifted and called.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, but how is one to know whether a pastor is chosen, gifted and called?  According to Barna research that I have read, many seminary graduates drop out of the ministry after several years for various reasons.  Also it may be unknown to the congregation, but it many successful pastors (those that are able to earn a living from being a pastor) also struggle with the same sins as the congregation.  Viewing pornography was mentioned in the research.  Therefore, the success of a pastor may have more to due with personality and marketing than being chosen, gifted and called.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tebowing and the Prosperity Gospel by Erik</title>
		<link>http://unorthodoxfaith.com/2012/02/03/tebowing-and-the-prosperity-gospel/#comment-1853</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think he is immature in some ways and is manipulated by a media machine, but inside of all that I have no doubt there is a good kid trying to do his best for the Lord. You can&#039;t fault him for that. A lot of people forget that he is only 24 years old and has &lt;em&gt;never&lt;/em&gt; lived outside of his parents&#039; shadow. 

When he was in college, his mother called him &quot;Timmy&quot; so often in the press that it was obvious who is in control of the machine that is &quot;Tebowmania.&quot; When he breaks free from that, I think we&#039;ll see him stumble a bit (like a real human being) and then do some great things. 

Of course, he is also in the AFC so I have to cheer for him to lose whenever he faces the Pats. That&#039;s just a law of nature. I like Peyton Manning too, but when he&#039;s playing New England, he is the enemy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think he is immature in some ways and is manipulated by a media machine, but inside of all that I have no doubt there is a good kid trying to do his best for the Lord. You can&#8217;t fault him for that. A lot of people forget that he is only 24 years old and has <em>never</em> lived outside of his parents&#8217; shadow. </p>
<p>When he was in college, his mother called him &#8220;Timmy&#8221; so often in the press that it was obvious who is in control of the machine that is &#8220;Tebowmania.&#8221; When he breaks free from that, I think we&#8217;ll see him stumble a bit (like a real human being) and then do some great things. </p>
<p>Of course, he is also in the AFC so I have to cheer for him to lose whenever he faces the Pats. That&#8217;s just a law of nature. I like Peyton Manning too, but when he&#8217;s playing New England, he is the enemy.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tebowing and the Prosperity Gospel by Jared</title>
		<link>http://unorthodoxfaith.com/2012/02/03/tebowing-and-the-prosperity-gospel/#comment-1852</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jared]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 13:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tebow keeps doing stuff to make me begrudgingly like him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tebow keeps doing stuff to make me begrudgingly like him.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Go Deeper! by Erik</title>
		<link>http://unorthodoxfaith.com/2012/02/02/go-deeper/#comment-1850</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 03:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have long been critical of the &quot;professional clergy&quot; who say nothing but sound good doing it. I am blessed that the core leaders of our congregation appreciate and value solid Bible teaching, and they encourage the depth and intensity that have become a hallmark of our worship. (We do our best to steer clear of shallowness in all areas: preaching, music, prayer, etc.)

On a side note, our congregation celebrated the Sunday that I managed to preach for under 45 minutes. For years, it was not uncommon for me preach for an hour. I hover around 35 minutes per week now, but I got down to that by changing my approach and going from three or four big ideas to one per week.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have long been critical of the &#8220;professional clergy&#8221; who say nothing but sound good doing it. I am blessed that the core leaders of our congregation appreciate and value solid Bible teaching, and they encourage the depth and intensity that have become a hallmark of our worship. (We do our best to steer clear of shallowness in all areas: preaching, music, prayer, etc.)</p>
<p>On a side note, our congregation celebrated the Sunday that I managed to preach for under 45 minutes. For years, it was not uncommon for me preach for an hour. I hover around 35 minutes per week now, but I got down to that by changing my approach and going from three or four big ideas to one per week.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Go Deeper! by J Todd</title>
		<link>http://unorthodoxfaith.com/2012/02/02/go-deeper/#comment-1848</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J Todd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 20:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can&#039;t agree more.  I think the problem stems from a long tradition of people getting complacent on Sunday morning and wanting thinner and thinner milk from the pulpit on Sunday morning, let alone meat.  How else would you get a Joel O?  I&#039;ve heard too many times in the last couple years as my church has gone through many changes, that on Sunday morning the sermons are too long (more than 20-30 minutes) and that they sound like a seminary class, not a sermon.  Every time I hear this my jaw drops.  I don&#039;t understand.  Are you in the pew to learn or to get patted on the head and told to feel ok &#039;cause it will be alright?
The thing that gets me is that I hear this from people who I know, by their fruit, that they are strong believers, but there still seems to be that lack of discipleship.  And that has to start from the pulpit.  Yes small groups of various flavors are necessary for discipleship, but the preaching and pastoring has to come from a place of discipleship as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t agree more.  I think the problem stems from a long tradition of people getting complacent on Sunday morning and wanting thinner and thinner milk from the pulpit on Sunday morning, let alone meat.  How else would you get a Joel O?  I&#8217;ve heard too many times in the last couple years as my church has gone through many changes, that on Sunday morning the sermons are too long (more than 20-30 minutes) and that they sound like a seminary class, not a sermon.  Every time I hear this my jaw drops.  I don&#8217;t understand.  Are you in the pew to learn or to get patted on the head and told to feel ok &#8217;cause it will be alright?<br />
The thing that gets me is that I hear this from people who I know, by their fruit, that they are strong believers, but there still seems to be that lack of discipleship.  And that has to start from the pulpit.  Yes small groups of various flavors are necessary for discipleship, but the preaching and pastoring has to come from a place of discipleship as well.</p>
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		<title>Comment on We&#8217;re Not Designed for This by Erik</title>
		<link>http://unorthodoxfaith.com/2012/01/30/were-not-designed-for-this/#comment-1844</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 16:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But then there was all that stuff about the rabbit hole and such...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But then there was all that stuff about the rabbit hole and such&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on We&#8217;re Not Designed for This by Nichole</title>
		<link>http://unorthodoxfaith.com/2012/01/30/were-not-designed-for-this/#comment-1843</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nichole]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 16:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe I should&#039;ve gone with the red pill... LOL]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I should&#8217;ve gone with the red pill&#8230; LOL</p>
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