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A New Kind of Christianity – The Pluralism Question

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I have rarely read a book where I went back and forth chapter by chapter, but McLaren has made me do just that. I felt like the last two chapters were awful and incomplete; but this chapter was excellent.

Far from advocating a form of “every religion leads to God” attitude, which McLaren has been accused of repeatedly, he advocates an attitude of respect. I would phrase it differently and say that the Holy Spirit is powerful enough to convict people of their need for Jesus and as long as you are willing to let us share the message of the Gospel, I am not going to persecute or ridicule you. Of course, I do not believe Jesus is just one way of many. He is the truth, the life and the way. And for that reason, I don’t need to attack you in order for His Gospel to come through. Convicting people of their need for the gospel is not my job. My job is to simply share the Jesus of the Bible.

Did I agree with everything McLaren said? No, his interpretations are still a bit of a stretch for me, although I think he hit onto quite a bit of truth in his exegesis of John 14.

Next week, I’ll probably write some kind of conclusion of the whole book. McLaren is one of the few writers who manage to disappoint and encourage me in the same books.

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    A New Kind of Christian – The Future Question

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    I have to be honest. I did not really know what to do with this chapter of A New Kind of Christianity. I agree with McLaren’s sentiment that:

    Conventional eschatologies, whether premillennial, postmillennial, amillennial, preterist, and so on, tend to argue about different arrangements or lengths of the lines in the Greco-Roman narrative.

    But I don’t agree that the answer to the question is to view eschatology in a “depends on you and me” kind of way; and I adamantly don’t agree with his view that the Second Coming of Christ was really just the self-realization of the church. He won’t come out and say it, but he presents a purely preterist eschatology, claiming that the Scriptures were completely fulfilled in the Church surviving the destruction of the Temple and “emerging” as the Church independent of Judaism.

    I did like this statement though:

    Whatever the final judgment will be, then, it will not involve God (please pardon the crudeness of this) pulling down our pants to check for circumcision or scanning our brains for certain beliefs like products being scanned at the grocery checkout. No, God will examine the story of our lives for signs of Christlikeness.

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      A New Kind of Christianity – The Sex Question

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      For some reason, every time I write about the issue of sexuality, I get myself into trouble. I’m not sure how I do it, but I do.

      McLaren seems to have the same problem; but I know why he gets himself into trouble. He refuses to take a position and yet he constantly pushes people to ‘expand’ their thinking. In other words, his position is that your position is wrong – specifically if you believe that homosexuality is a sin.

      So, let me make my position clear – so the fundamentalists will be happy and the ACLU can get their lawsuit ready. The Bible is pretty clear that homosexuality is a sin. Sorry, that’s just what the Bible says. No matter how you try to manipulate the words of Romans 1:26-27, they are still pretty clear that homosexuality is an act motivated by sin.

      That being said, I think we approach homosexuality as a sin WRONG.

      Example #1 – The Couple

      Consider this situation – a young couple comes in the back door of the church during service. They sit in the back row and the young man puts his arm around his companion. He whispers in his partner’s ear during the service. They might even be holding hands during the songs. They both smile and laugh at the right times. During conversation with one of the parishioners, they indicate that they are living together and looking for a church.

      If the partner in the story were a beautiful young lady, we would smile and invite them to journey with us. Inside our heads, we would be saying, “Maybe as they grow, they will realize they are living in sin and need to get married.”

      Now imagine that the partner is a handsome young man. This is a GAY couple. How would most churches’ response change? How would they have looked at the couple while they held hands there in the back row? Would the pastor have even been able to finish his sermon without calling them out? Would the ushers have quietly (or not so quietly) escorted them out of the building?

      But what’s the difference? When we thought the partner was a female, they were living in sin. Now we know it is a male, and they’re living in sin. Both are SINNING. Adultery is a sin; fornication is a sin; homosexuality is a sin.

      Example #2 – The Porn

      A mother opens her son’s underwear drawer to put some folded clothes away and discovers his stash of girlie magazines. She is shocked and appalled. She tells her husband about them – after she’s thrown them away to keep her husband from sinning. When their son comes home from school, they confront him. The father takes his son aside after they talk with the mother. “Look, son,” he says with a bit of a secret smile. “I know you’re curious. Women are attractive. It’s not that big of a deal; but you need to deal with this so your eyes and mind are pure when you get married. Wouldn’t want your wife to have to live up to unrealistic expectations.” This is usually concluded with a snicker or a punch on the arm.

      Now flip the situation. It is a teenage GIRL who has stashed female pornography. Mother is disgusted. Dad is ashamed. She comes home to accusations, “Are you a lesbian or something!?!” Her parents begin to wonder whether those sleepovers were really all that innocent. The girl is ostracized.

      But what’s the difference? Pornography is pornography, regardless who it is that you’re looking at naked or having sex. Do you see the difference though?

      I Call This The “Gays-Are-Gross” Factor

      For most Christians, homosexuality is elevated above other sexual sin. It is treated as if it is somehow worse than adultery or fornication. This is cultural and not biblical.

      (It fascinates me that this elevation of homosexuality has risen to such a level that we actually read it back into biblical accounts, like the judgment of Sodom and Gomorrah in Genesis 19. We focus on the homosexual aspect of the passage while ignoring the fact that Lot permits a gang rape of his daughters. By the way, Ezekiel states plainly that Sodom was judged for greed and inhospitality, not homosexuality – Ezekiel 16:48-49)

      We were created as sexual creatures. Sin has perverted that sexuality – whether it is perverted into pursuing multiple partners, using sex as recreation without consideration of its spiritual nature, pursuing homosexual gratification, using pornography, or whatever other perversion might come along.

      Sexual sin is ALL abhorrent to God; and the answer is not ostracizing people who practice one sin while coddling others. The answer is to pursue a godly sexuality that is defined by God’s desires for sex and not OUR desires for gratification via sex.

      So, Back to Brian McLaren

      I seem to have used this post to expound on my frustrations, but we need to get back to Brian McLaren for a minute. I think McLaren’s fear of coming out and saying “Homosexuality is good” prevents him from making any kind of worthwhile statement in this chapter. He knows that people who read the Bible literally (i.e. people like me) will find that statement in direct violation of Scripture.

      Personally, I think we should not be afraid of saying homosexuality is sin; but only if we’re also not afraid to say that other sexual sin is just as sinful. Even better than that, however, would be to embrace those who are in sin and lovingly speak the truth of God’s Word into their lives and see the Holy Spirit heal their sexuality.

      For more information on ministries who approach sexual sin from this perspective, I recommend checking out http://xxxchurch.org (now called “Fireproof Ministries” but I think the original name was much cooler).

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      A New Kind of Christianity – The Church Question

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      Up to this point in A New Kind of Christianity, McLaren has tackled what we might consider abstract questions. He has questioned the underlying belief structure of what he considers to be a Platonic, incomplete message. Now he turns his attention to the active structure of faith – the church.

      For the most part, I agreed with McLaren’s assessment of the problems of the church in his work Church on the Other Side and I agree with his assessment here as well. The Church has become divided along so many lines but none so difficult to understand as the lines of organization and administration. All of these divisions pit the churches against one another rather than humbling embracing the diversity that makes the Church such a vibrant, powerful force in the world.

      In another book that I am reading – Radical by David Platt – the author looks at the Church and says that every church should be socially conscious, going to Haiti or New Orleans or wherever and feeling guilty if you don’t. I prefer McLaren’s perspective – that different churches do different stuff and that’s ok.

      Additionally, McLaren points out that the church is not itself the solution to anything – not the way we understand church as an institution anyway. The church is, instead, a network of relationships into which the Holy Spirit injects people – with all their talents and flaws – and calls them to work together for the glory of God.

      I would say it was the best chapter in the book. This is where I think McLaren excels anyway – when addressing the problems the modern church has created for itself. Allow me to conclude with his conclusion:

      The one grand calling, I suggest, tells us what the church most truly is: it is a space in which the Spirit works for form Christlike people, and it is the space in which human beings, formed in Christlike love, cooperate with the Spirit and one another to express that love in word and deed, art and action.

      If only I knew for sure that he means what I took him to mean…which, with McLaren is hard to say.

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      A New Kind of Christianity – The Gospel Question

      What is the gospel? This is a question that McLaren has been asking for as long as I have been reading his works. I will agree with McLaren that the gospel is not the bullet-pointed, systematic plan to get out of Hell that most evangelicals reduce it to.

      To McLaren, we need to figure out what the gospel is according to Jesus. He asks whether what we call the “gospel” is the same as what Jesus called the gospel. A great question to ask!

      Did I like McLaren’s answer? It wasn’t bad. It was incomplete in my opinion. His Kingdom is bounded by the natural works, by our ability to build the Kingdom. It dwelled too much on the problems of the 21s Century and not enough on the larger flaws in the human race. He does not address sin. He chooses to think of mankind as inately good and continually progressing toward greater goodness. I’m afraid the Scriptures would disagree.

      Man is only good in synergy with God and thus we do not naturly become better. So, the Kingdom is not something we build; it is something about the presence of Jesus. I do believe that we evangelicals miss the point when we make Jesus’ entire message about heaven and hell. It is definitely more about how we impact the world at large than just how many converts we make.

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      A New Kind of Christianity – The Jesus Question

      You have to love it when someone starts speaking about others using abstract titles when everyone knows who they are talking about. In this section of A New Kind of Christianity, Brian McLaren answers some accusations from two other well-known Christian writers – specifically Mark Driscoll and John MacArthur. To Driscoll, Jesus was a man’s man; and to MacArthur, Jesus came only to save people from hell and nothing else. McLaren contends, and I agree, that neither of these positions reflect the full body of who Jesus is, was and shall be.

      But I have some issues with the image of Jesus that McLaren constructs as well. To McLaren, Jesus is only the pre-Resurrection Jesus. He makes no reference to Christ’s return or even Jesus’ victory over death. Although McLaren professes that his view of Jesus is more accurate according to the gospels, he fails to include the end of those gospels.

      There are two popular Beatles cover bands that come through our area. One, 1964, is an exceptionally talented band who performs the pre-Rubber Soul portion of the Beatles’ catalog with energy, talent and flair. The other, Rain, does the same thing but then they continue to perform the rest of the Beatles’ catalog, all the way through Abby Road. Although both are excellent performers, only Rain tells the whole story. Both are faithful, but 1964 leaves you with the impression that the story ends when the Beatles stopped touring. Really, that was only the beginning.

      The same thing is true of McLaren’s depiction of Jesus. I know the theology from which he projects this image. I’ve read it many times in the writings of Bart Ehrmann and John Dominic Crossan. Jesus’ resurrection is not meant literally, but rather that Jesus is resurrected through our continuance in His Way. The Church is Jesus’ body because he is no longer with us. He died, but we live on.

      This is contrary to the statements of the apostles; it is contrary to the gospels. I would go so far as to say that there is no gospel without the resurrection.

      Certainly, McLaren brings something to the discussion. In my sermons, I will often remind people that Jesus is our Savior, Master, and Model. While McLaren is content to see him as Model; MacArthur sees him as only Savior; and Driscoll seems content to see him as Master, in reality Jesus is all three. We cannot ignore the Model part because it is as much a part of who Jesus is as his role as Savior and Master; but we also cannot overplay any one aspect of His ministry. To do so is to detract from the rest of who He is.

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      A New Kind of Christianity – The God Question

      Mclaren’s third chapter marked the first time I had a genuine disagreement with his questions. Mclaren’s attempts to argue that human beings were not able to handle God falls short (he actually uses an analogy where he refers to the ancients as 2nd graders).

      What if people who live in the second-grade world of polytheism need to learn about one God as superior to others before they can handle the idea of one God as uniquely real?

      I think that Mclaren is not speaking about ancient in specific but people in general. Unfortunately, that is not very clear in the book. If you want to say that people have to journey through the revelation of Jesus Christ, I can agree with you. But I think McLaren is saying something else – something that troubles me, although I cannot put my finger on exactly what it is.

      This is the problem with reading McLaren. He asks great questions; and he offers answers that sound good but the more you read and re-read his answers, you get the sense that they are slightly off, slightly tilted away.

      Here’s an example. Mclaren takes us on a hypothetical trip through time to the year 3013 to demonstrate how God reveals himself as we are ready. The illustration works, but if you read it carefully, you see that McLaren has tipped his hand and shown an underlying agenda to his seemingly rhetorical journey. He mingles his cultural ideals with his ideas of spirituality.  Here is what he writes about these future Christians he encounters:

      They have continued to grow in the knowledge and ways of the Lord…Three social differeneces strike us immediately…they no longer fight wars…they live more ecologically sustainable live as vegetarians…they long ago outgrew the use of fossil fuels.

      Do you see it? The ‘future’ Christians have adopted the supposedly enlightened values of McLaren’s world. They have progressed in their understanding of God and have become…well, Al Gore.

      I am certain Mclaren did not intentionally project this stereotype but it illustrates how one’s matrix dictates his understanding. He still suffers from modernist’s problem of believing his views are superior to the ‘primitives’ who came before. Mclaren’s matrix speaks into his word although he does not do it intentionally.

      Being perfectly honest, I think the subtle condescension of this section of the chapter disturbed me so much that I had difficulty sticking with him on the rest of his discussion.

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      A New Kind of Christianity – The Authority Question

      Part 2 of Brian McLaren’s A New Kind of Christianity addresses how we should read the Bible. It presented a fairly decent contrast of what I refer to as the clerical and journey views of the Scriptures.

      • Clerical View – the Scriptures need a professional caste of clerks who decipher the texts because the ‘laity’ couldn’t prossibly crack the code. Mclaren calls this the ‘constitutional view’.
      • Journey View – the Scriptures are a compilation of the journey with God. They reflect more than report and the same struggles exist in our context as did with the ancients. Mclaren has a variation of this he calls the ‘library’ view.

      Unlike a lot of people I know, I do not feel that we need to treat all of the Scripture the same. The Scriptures are not a single, codified rule. It is a library, a collection of the writings of those who share our journey. Far from being some kind of absolute, consolidated document, the Bible is actually a varied collection with many different voices expressed in it.

      These voices unite in a dialogue, pointing us toward God and the way he has called us to live; but we must not just assume that because something is in the Bible that it is normative. For example, huge passages of the Hebrew Scriptures are poetic. The book of Job has enormous tractates that espouse positions out of sync with the rest of the Scriptures. The entire book of Ecclesiastes is a mingling of half-truths and perceptions.

      This however, is not the same as Mclaren’s library view. He holds to a belief in in a very loose inspiration. To him, inspiration is the dialogue between God and man, with man predominant. The Scriptures are the human record of inspiration. I disagree with this oversimplification. It is a continuing dialogue, which occurs not just in Scripture but in all world religions (more on that in next week’s post).

      The Scriptures do not simply inspire us nor are they the record of God’s inspiration. They are the God-breathed words. Together, they form the canon of his witness of himself to us. They cannot be used willy-nilly for support of this position or that position. That much I will agree with McLaren about. But to then redefine inspiration as basically a discussion between God and man – it does not line up with that the Bible says about itself.

      And that’s really my problem with McLaren’s position. I agree with his question; and I even agree with his rejection of what he calls the “constitution” view of Scripture; but I think his response is too human, too driven by literary theory to fit with the mystery of inspiration as it played out in the Bible.

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      A New Kind of Christianity – The Narrative Question

      What is the over-arching story of the Scriptures?

      In Western Christianity, it has long been contended that the story of the Scriptures is the story of redemption through Jesus. Brian McLaren taught this position for a long time. He generalizes the idea in a sort of diagram that I will not reproduce here, but essentially this is what he says it is:

      • In Eden, mankind was perfect like God is perfect.
      • Man fell from perfection, which made God angry.
      • Man was thus condemned to destruction.
      • Jesus offers salvation from condemnation.
      • Those who accept Jesus are no longer condemned and go to heaven.
      • Those who do not go to hell and damnation.

      In his first chapter on the subject, McLaren equates this to a neo-Platonic view of man’s enlightenment. He believes that Western Christianity looks backward through man’s interpretation, through the Hellenic philosophies that influenced the thinking of the church during the Roman Empire and thus reflects Plato’s philosophy more than it reflects the original intent of the Scriptures. Because of this, McLaren calls us to reject the typical understanding of the Scriptures’ narrative.

      In this Platonic world, God is perfect. He is stiff and unmoveable; he is a Greek ideal. McLaren deems this view of God as theos (the Greek word for God.)

      After laying out this view, McLaren proposes that we read the Scriptures differently, that we assume this Platonic way is incorrect and we start from the beginning of the Scriptures and attempt to read the Scriptures without this filter. McLaren asks a great question: Would the ancient audience of the Scriptures have read them the way we do? We’ll come back to that question in a minute.

      McLaren then contrasts theos with the God of the Hebrew Scriptures whom he refers to as Elohim. In his reading of the Hebrew Scriptures, McLaren points out that Elohim is more good than he is perfect. He is not the Hellenic ideal and thus the story is not so much about our falling from the ideal as it is about Elohim relating to all mankind. Blessings are not because a certain people or a certain person are special but rather so they can be a blessing to all mankind. Anything unique about Israel or people in the narrative is meant for a blessing to people not in the story.

      There’s more to it than this, but there’s no point in rewriting the whole book here.

      So, here’s where I get really, really unorthodox. (If you’re an uber-Christian, here is where I suggest you re-read the warning I posted at the beginning of the introduction to this series of posts.)

      My Response

      McLaren’s question is correct. That’s my opinion, of course, and people are free to disagree. But the fact is that we do read the Bible from our perspective backward. We allow our interpretational matrix to dictate the form of the text.

      Although he wouldn’t admit it (well, he might, who knows?) McLaren does it as well. I do it too. We all do it.

      But Christianity in its modern form has down it dramatically, suppressing and even oppressing anyone who taught it differently. The medieval church particularly excelled at forcing this condemnation narrative down the throats of its adherents, using guilt and the threat of condemnation to manipulate the masses.

      That is not to say that there is not truth in the Platonic view of revelation. Mankind is fallen and we are condemned. This is clear in the Scriptures, most notably in Paul’s letter to the Romans. This is the way the apostles viewed things; but there is also something to McLaren’s question because the truth that is in the Platonic view is not all of the truth that there is.

      The Platonic deity that McLaren deemed Theos is indeed the God of many Christians but it is not the God of the Scriptures. In the Scriptures, God’s perfection is not one of immutable sterility but a perfection of goodness and completeness. His perfection does not make him unemotional. He is perhaps the personification of broken-heartedness and compassion. He is actively engaged in the story of mankind.

      Previously, I posted my creation of a new term – supranarrative. I believe that this is what McLaren is looking for, although I believe he does so using the literary device of a metanarrative instead. He seeks some kind of hidden over-aching narrative that fits something of a political, liberation theology. He makes quite a stretch in certain places to make the narrative fit his idea of what it should be. It’s not intentional; but he (like all of us) is subject to his own matrix.

      What do I think the underlying narrative of the Scriptures is? I have to say that I differ from McLaren on that one. I think the underlying narrative of the Hebrew Scriptures is the Kingdom – particularly, the kingdom of David. I would contend that David is the keystone of the entire Hebrew Scriptures; and it is for that reason that the Gospels make such a dramatic, obvious and insistent point of Jesus’ connection to David. I will blog on that one day; but for now, I’ll just leave it hanging.

      In conclusion, does McLaren ask the right question? Yes, I think he does. I think he rejects too much of traditional Christianity’s view because he classes it as Platonic; but I think he once again asks the right questions.

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      A New Kind of Christianity, Introduction

      I am quite certain that the next few posts will offend many an uber-Christian out there in cyberspace. If you are one such offended individual, I wish to extend an apology in advance. If you wish to comment and provide useful dialogue on the topic of this post, feel free; but if you wish to post nothing but ad hominem attacks or venomous rhetoric concerning Brian McLaren, the postmodern church and/or the author of this blog, please know that your comments will not appear on this site. They will be deleted before or shortly after they appear. – EKD

      Recently, a friend of mine asked me to read A New Kind of Christianity by Brian McLaren. If you don’t know who McLaren is, he is probably the most prominent voice of the Emergent Church – a rather varied and often misunderstood group. You can read his biography from his website here.

      My personal journey with McLaren began when I read his probably best known book, A New Kind of Christian (notice the difference – Christian vs. Christianity) back in 2006. Along the way, I’ve been impacted by two of his other books – Church on the Other Side and More Ready than You Realize.

      While I rarely agree with McLaren’s conclusions, his most powerful work is the questions he asks. You might say that Brian does not have all the answers, but at least he is working on the questions.

      So when my friend Ian asked me to read A New Kind of Christianity, McLaren’s most recent work, I told him I would. I knew that McLaren’s work is highly controversial, and he is often easily misunderstood.

      A New Kind of Christianity is subtitled “Ten Questions That Are Transforming the Faith.” The ten questions are:

      • The Narrative Question: What is the overarching story line of the Bible?
      • The Authority Question: How should the Bible be understood?
      • The God Question: Is God Violent?
      • The Jesus Question: Who is Jesus and why is he important?
      • The Gospel Question: What is the gospel?
      • The Church Question: What do we do about the church?
      • The Sex Question: Can we find a way to address human sexuality without fighting about it?
      • The Future Question: Can we find a better way of viewing the future?
      • The Pluralism Question: How should followers of Jesus relate to people of other religions?
      • The What-Do-We-Do-Now Question: How can we translate our quest into action?

      In this series of posts, I will journal some of my impressions, thoughts, issues and comments on McLaren’s exploration of these questions. They probably won’t be rapid fire posts. I imagine there will be one a week for the next few weeks since it takes awhile to really sort out McLaren’s intentions and direction. Bear with me, and we’ll get through this together.

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