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	<title>Comments on: Why Men Don’t Go to Church</title>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
		<link>http://unorthodoxfaith.com/2008/01/15/why-men-don%e2%80%99t-go-to-church/#comment-2288</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 10:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Name calling is not welcome on my blog. You said your piece, and I disagreed. Leave it at that and walk away civilly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Name calling is not welcome on my blog. You said your piece, and I disagreed. Leave it at that and walk away civilly.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
		<link>http://unorthodoxfaith.com/2008/01/15/why-men-don%e2%80%99t-go-to-church/#comment-2286</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 05:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Then don&#039;t be a wuss christian and DISPROVE that every thing I said is true and deal with me on the dialectical battlefield instead of dropping trite phraseology.  Or does that &quot;go without saying?&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then don&#8217;t be a wuss christian and DISPROVE that every thing I said is true and deal with me on the dialectical battlefield instead of dropping trite phraseology.  Or does that &#8220;go without saying?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
		<link>http://unorthodoxfaith.com/2008/01/15/why-men-don%e2%80%99t-go-to-church/#comment-2285</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 00:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I disagree with almost everything you said, but that goes without saying.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with almost everything you said, but that goes without saying.</p>
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		<title>By: Help Me Reach 50,000 Views &#171; Unorthodox Faith</title>
		<link>http://unorthodoxfaith.com/2008/01/15/why-men-don%e2%80%99t-go-to-church/#comment-2281</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 13:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
		<link>http://unorthodoxfaith.com/2008/01/15/why-men-don%e2%80%99t-go-to-church/#comment-2280</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 12:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree that disillusionment is a factor.  But the sourcing of that disillusionment is akin to realising there is no Santa:  the promises were hollow and based on mystical irrationality.  The only reward church offers is a mystical one in which one must wait until death to receive.  And with that sort of limitation, the ecclesiastical authorities have complete freedom to make up any sort of promisory or punitive skein of confusing theology to keep people in the seats and paying tithes.  Men have realised that this is a scam and have abandoned it for more satisfactory or productive pursuits.  My position is not &quot;unfair&quot; to any one demographic except those who substitute fear for reason and ineffable dreamy dreams for positivist satisfactions. And my position is certainly not unfair to atheists; I am one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that disillusionment is a factor.  But the sourcing of that disillusionment is akin to realising there is no Santa:  the promises were hollow and based on mystical irrationality.  The only reward church offers is a mystical one in which one must wait until death to receive.  And with that sort of limitation, the ecclesiastical authorities have complete freedom to make up any sort of promisory or punitive skein of confusing theology to keep people in the seats and paying tithes.  Men have realised that this is a scam and have abandoned it for more satisfactory or productive pursuits.  My position is not &#8220;unfair&#8221; to any one demographic except those who substitute fear for reason and ineffable dreamy dreams for positivist satisfactions. And my position is certainly not unfair to atheists; I am one.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
		<link>http://unorthodoxfaith.com/2008/01/15/why-men-don%e2%80%99t-go-to-church/#comment-2278</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 18:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With respect, I disagree and the number of men who make up our congregation would take issue with your position as well. Your description has nothing to do with being male and everything to do with being disillusioned, and it is quite unfair to women, people of faith, and even atheists.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With respect, I disagree and the number of men who make up our congregation would take issue with your position as well. Your description has nothing to do with being male and everything to do with being disillusioned, and it is quite unfair to women, people of faith, and even atheists.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
		<link>http://unorthodoxfaith.com/2008/01/15/why-men-don%e2%80%99t-go-to-church/#comment-2277</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 18:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Most of the articles I have read regarding the paucity of male church attendance get it wrong, including the one above.  I used to go to church with enthusiasm and strong belonging.  But like most men who attend and then quit or never go in the first place it comes down to the mental nature of men.  We realise the whole thing is irrational and just plain silly.  Men don&#039;t go to church because it is a plain and simple huge waste of time.  Women are far more susceptible to the chimeric aspects of christianity; of which there are very few aspects that are not.  Church offers no sort of concrete reward that humans can grasp.  And quite often church ends up condemning one&#039;s inner humanity and defining inner humanity as innately evil.  When, in practice, most people are anything but almost all of the time.  Men go to church after being told it will make us better people.  When we notice the obvious that this is simply not the case, we make the rational choice of not going at all.  We don&#039;t not go because the church is &quot;feminized&quot;  or &quot;lacks masculine core values&quot;.  We don&#039;t go because it is irrational to do so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of the articles I have read regarding the paucity of male church attendance get it wrong, including the one above.  I used to go to church with enthusiasm and strong belonging.  But like most men who attend and then quit or never go in the first place it comes down to the mental nature of men.  We realise the whole thing is irrational and just plain silly.  Men don&#8217;t go to church because it is a plain and simple huge waste of time.  Women are far more susceptible to the chimeric aspects of christianity; of which there are very few aspects that are not.  Church offers no sort of concrete reward that humans can grasp.  And quite often church ends up condemning one&#8217;s inner humanity and defining inner humanity as innately evil.  When, in practice, most people are anything but almost all of the time.  Men go to church after being told it will make us better people.  When we notice the obvious that this is simply not the case, we make the rational choice of not going at all.  We don&#8217;t not go because the church is &#8220;feminized&#8221;  or &#8220;lacks masculine core values&#8221;.  We don&#8217;t go because it is irrational to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: Revisiting Chickification of the Church &#171; Unorthodox Faith</title>
		<link>http://unorthodoxfaith.com/2008/01/15/why-men-don%e2%80%99t-go-to-church/#comment-1271</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Revisiting Chickification of the Church &#171; Unorthodox Faith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 04:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Chickification of the&#160;Church   Back in 2008, I wrote a post called &#8220;Why Men Don&#8217;t Go to Church&#8221;. It has been a couple of years, and the post remains one of the most viewed on the blog. At the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Chickification of the&nbsp;Church   Back in 2008, I wrote a post called &#8220;Why Men Don&#8217;t Go to Church&#8221;. It has been a couple of years, and the post remains one of the most viewed on the blog. At the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: timothy</title>
		<link>http://unorthodoxfaith.com/2008/01/15/why-men-don%e2%80%99t-go-to-church/#comment-715</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[timothy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you&#039;re right. church has becomes a place for women and their gentleness. a male pastor that i know off has forgotten how to confront. he has this idea that he or we need to love one another. yet he does not want or afraid to confront the wrongdoer. what is becoming of christian male leaders nowadays?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you&#8217;re right. church has becomes a place for women and their gentleness. a male pastor that i know off has forgotten how to confront. he has this idea that he or we need to love one another. yet he does not want or afraid to confront the wrongdoer. what is becoming of christian male leaders nowadays?</p>
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		<title>By: Clifford Randles</title>
		<link>http://unorthodoxfaith.com/2008/01/15/why-men-don%e2%80%99t-go-to-church/#comment-496</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clifford Randles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 06:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, you hit the nail on the head,any one who has read the bible and took it serious enough to actually study it can plainly see that Jesus was a man that the apostals (at least) thought would be the leader they could follow into battle, a far cry from the image that so many churches puts out.

I do not go to church because I do not see so many things like most people are taught and I do not have enough sense to avoid questions that might make them uncomfortable with what they believe. lets face it there are some things that are hard to understand, doe,s it mean pro or con?

As I was listening to pastor Vernon mcgee ( a world wide known pastor) he read a scripture and then he hesitated and said I beg your pardon folks, I don,t know what that means.

If some one with a reputation like his admits that there may be something they do not understand, then why is it that so many who has just started preaching will try to explain it even though they have no idea?

Could it be they think no one else knows anything?

There is probly a lot of reasons why men who believe do not like to go to church and I can understand that very well.

But the other thing is that the Bible says that in the last days men shall be lovers of themselves rather than lovers of God.

And I believe it also says that men will become as women.

At any rate I guess my worry is this, and that is saving my own soul from hell because if i would get what I deserve, thats what it would be.

God bless

Cliff.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you hit the nail on the head,any one who has read the bible and took it serious enough to actually study it can plainly see that Jesus was a man that the apostals (at least) thought would be the leader they could follow into battle, a far cry from the image that so many churches puts out.</p>
<p>I do not go to church because I do not see so many things like most people are taught and I do not have enough sense to avoid questions that might make them uncomfortable with what they believe. lets face it there are some things that are hard to understand, doe,s it mean pro or con?</p>
<p>As I was listening to pastor Vernon mcgee ( a world wide known pastor) he read a scripture and then he hesitated and said I beg your pardon folks, I don,t know what that means.</p>
<p>If some one with a reputation like his admits that there may be something they do not understand, then why is it that so many who has just started preaching will try to explain it even though they have no idea?</p>
<p>Could it be they think no one else knows anything?</p>
<p>There is probly a lot of reasons why men who believe do not like to go to church and I can understand that very well.</p>
<p>But the other thing is that the Bible says that in the last days men shall be lovers of themselves rather than lovers of God.</p>
<p>And I believe it also says that men will become as women.</p>
<p>At any rate I guess my worry is this, and that is saving my own soul from hell because if i would get what I deserve, thats what it would be.</p>
<p>God bless</p>
<p>Cliff.</p>
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